Orchard CMS

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  1. All,
    Just a quick post to see if anyone has been using the new ASP.NET MVC based Orchard CMS on DiscountASP.net.

    I've had a quick play and very interested in using it. However, it seems to be either very quick or very slow when I've uploaded it onto a test app folder on my website.

    Took approx 3-4 minutes to initially start, then pages could take up to 20-30 seconds to load in on an intermittent basis.

    Anyone else coming across these issues?

    Regards,
    Andrew
     
  2. dmitri

    dmitri DiscountASP.NET Staff

    Are you running your application on SQL CE?
     
  3. Same problems here. I though it was caused by Orchard but it seems to happen with other software too (SubText). Maybe it's a server problem.
     
  4. Upon reading more information about this, it appears a few people have complained about the CMS having problems with speed. I don't think it's a hosting related problem, as people with different hosts are running into this one.

    If you could let us know if you're using SQL CE or SQL server.
     
  5. Sorry in the delay in getting back to you on this!

    Yes, I'm using SQL CE - I was assuming it was SQL CE to be honest, not your hosting :) I've not been able to do a side-by-side comparison with a fully blown SQL Server using your hosting, would be interesting to see how Orchard ran on it if anyone else had that setup?
     
  6. mjp

    mjp

    I think it's safe to say that performance should be better using SQL. But I haven't compared the two either.

    3 minutes to start seems unusually long, but in general, a file-based database is almost always going to feel slower than SQL Server, especially as the size increases.
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce DiscountASP.NET Staff

    I looked a Orchard a little bit and personally found it to be overly bloated.

    If you look at the bin directory, it contains 40 dlls totalling 10MB in size. I tested it on a clean VM machine, it takes about good 15 seconds on first load. During the first load, .NET compiles all the dlls in the bin directory which is why it takes so long.
     
  8. I tested and played with it for a while on a hosting account and it was working OK using a SQL database. The first load is fairly long (about 10 seconds - forever in internet time) but after that the pages were being loaded fairly quick.

    My suggestion would be to never let your application pool idle out (20 minutes of inactivity) by setting up a scheduled task to hit the site every 15 minutes.
     
  9. Bruce

    Bruce DiscountASP.NET Staff

    BTW, if you are using SQL, you should remove all the CE dlls in the bin directory. It will make it load faster and use less memory.

    /bin/amd64
    /bin/x86
    /bin/System.Data.SqlServerCe.Entity
     
  10. Thanks for the reply guys - I ended up using Wordpress in the end as i decided the risk was too great given the timescales i had - will be keeping an eye on orchard though as it's finally a .net cms that i'm impressed with :)

    yes, a lot of dlls bruce :)
     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce DiscountASP.NET Staff

    good choice.. even though we are a .net host, i still think that wp is the best blog software available.
     
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