Outlook Express (OE) IMAP account

Most of my mails (I mean subjects, not mail bodies) are brought automatically to my Outlook Express (OE) IMAP account w/o any problem. Many of them are spams but ...

Every day, at least few mails are notified by OE as present in my Inbox as

Inbox (2)

but their subjects dont appear inOE. I can wait hours and hours, recive other mails in meantime, but the subjects of those fewnever reach my OE. I have to accessmy account via webmail.<our_domain> andget rid of the messages.

Those lazy messages have no particularities except that they are always (up to now) spams.
I am a bit tired ;-) to access everyday my account via IE.
The phenomenon startedafter introduction of SmarterMail.

Have you any suggestion or remedy ?

Jacek

Post Edited By Moderator (mjp [DASP]) : 12/28/2007 9:23:39 PM GMT

 

This must be a problem outside SmarterMail.
Seem to me anyway...
I use Outlook 2007 daily with SmarterMail and the SmarterMail Sync Tool.
(At the same time I'm also pulling in my Comcast mail and my Hotmail.)

Have you tried setting up an additional E-Mail package, like Eudora? To test with...

 

First, to reply to wisemx :
Thanks, but for pragmatic reasons I cant abandon OE (mine is OE6).
BTW, the only thing which changed is new mail server (SmarterMail), so it seems logical to look first there for the reason of the present discriminative download.

Now, for Bruce :
Thank you too. I have no antivirus software. Anyway, as far as I can know, nothing changed on my side. Those recent days I got a stock of 9 non-downloadable mails in my Inbox. They are all "viagra-rolex" kind spams. Such spams used to have their headers tinkered in non-orthodox manner. I am afraid that SmarterMailtries tobe smarter then the previous server.The old saying : "Better is the worst enemy of Good" may be the key to the issue.

Since you seem to be DASP man, have you any means to monitor the negotiations between my OE and your SmarterMail ?

Happy New Year to both of you,
Jacek

 

I did it and and the log finishes by
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IMAP: 22:43:23 [db] OnNotify: asOld = 5, asNew = 5, ae = 3
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 2 FETCH (UID 3 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 3 FETCH (UID 8 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 4 FETCH (UID 11 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 5 FETCH (UID 14 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 6 FETCH (UID 17 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 7 FETCH (UID 19 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 8 FETCH (UID 20 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 9 FETCH (UID 21 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 10 FETCH (UID 22 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 11 FETCH (UID 23 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 12 FETCH (UID 28 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 13 FETCH (UID 29 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 14 FETCH (UID 30 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 15 FETCH (UID 31 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 16 FETCH (UID 33 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 17 FETCH (UID 316 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 18 FETCH (UID 647 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 19 FETCH (UID 740 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 20 FETCH (UID 1176 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 21 FETCH (UID 1190 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 22 FETCH (UID 1202 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 23 FETCH (UID 1209 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 24 FETCH (UID 1217 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 25 FETCH (UID 1222 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 26 FETCH (UID 1228 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 27 FETCH (UID 1246 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] * 28 FETCH (UID 1261 FLAGS ())
IMAP: 22:43:23 [rx] nuw8 OK UID completed
-----------------------------------------------------
In my OE' Inbox the messages are sorted by date w/ the newest on the top. Inspired by the above log ordering I scrolled to the bottom of my Inbox list and ...... there are 9 messages preceded by the "closed enveloppe" icon but with neither sender, nor subject, nor reception date (this is why they appear at the end of the list).
BTW, all those messages appear in the SmarterMail Inbox with all those attributes.


Since my OE is configured to download only subjects, I downloaded the first of the "no-subject" messages. It contains Rolex ad but moreover the sender, the subject and the reception date which can be read in the message source but they still don't appear next to the "open-enveloppe" icon in my OE Inbox list.


What is most important for me that within my OE I can purge those "no-subject" messages. So, thank you very much.


Nevertheless, the mystery of lacking message attributes remains.

 

My joy was short.
Yesterday I purged all 9 "no-subject" messages. But today I got in the SmarterMail Inbox another 3 which don't appear at all in my OE Inbox.
The OE log final part is
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IMAP: 09:54:18 [db] OnNotify: asOld = 5, asNew = 5, ae = 3
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] 0bkw OK IDLE terminated
IMAP: 09:54:18 [tx] 8h27 UID FETCH 741:* (BODY.PEEK[HEADER.FIELDS (References X-Ref X-Priority X-MSMail-Priority X-MSOESRec Newsgroups)] ENVELOPE RFC822.SIZE UID FLAGS INTERNALDATE)
IMAP: 09:54:18 [db] OnNotify: asOld = 5, asNew = 5, ae = 3
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] * 20 FETCH (BODY[HEADER.FIELDS (REFERENCES X-REF X-PRIORITY X-MSMAIL-PRIORITY X-MSOESREC NEWSGROUPS)] {44}
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] Buffer (literal) of length 44
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] RFC822.SIZE 2494 UID 1282 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "3-Jan-2008 15:03:52 -0800")
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] * 21 FETCH (BODY[HEADER.FIELDS (REFERENCES X-REF X-PRIORITY X-MSMAIL-PRIORITY X-MSOESREC NEWSGROUPS)] {44}
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] Buffer (literal) of length 44
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] RFC822.SIZE 2498 UID 1286 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "3-Jan-2008 18:29:12 -0800")
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] * 22 FETCH (BODY[HEADER.FIELDS (REFERENCES X-REF X-PRIORITY X-MSMAIL-PRIORITY X-MSOESREC NEWSGROUPS)] {2}
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] Buffer (literal) of length 2
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] RFC822.SIZE 1307 UID 1288 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "3-Jan-2008 18:39:27 -0800")
IMAP: 09:54:18 [rx] 8h27 OK UID completed
IMAP: 09:54:18 [tx] gum6 UID FETCH 1:740 (UID FLAGS)
IMAP: 09:54:19 [db] OnNotify: asOld = 5, asNew = 5, ae = 3
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 2 FETCH (UID 3 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 3 FETCH (UID 8 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 4 FETCH (UID 11 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 5 FETCH (UID 14 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 6 FETCH (UID 17 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 7 FETCH (UID 19 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 8 FETCH (UID 20 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 9 FETCH (UID 21 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 10 FETCH (UID 22 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 11 FETCH (UID 23 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 12 FETCH (UID 28 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 13 FETCH (UID 29 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 14 FETCH (UID 30 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 15 FETCH (UID 31 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 16 FETCH (UID 33 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 17 FETCH (UID 316 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 18 FETCH (UID 647 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] * 19 FETCH (UID 740 FLAGS (\SEEN))
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] gum6 OK UID completed
IMAP: 09:54:19 [tx] fcxo IDLE
IMAP: 09:54:19 [db] OnNotify: asOld = 5, asNew = 5, ae = 3
IMAP: 09:54:19 [rx] +
--------------------------------------------------------
I wonder whether the three fetches
* 20 FETCH .....
* 21 FETCH .....
* 22 FETCH .....
correspond to the three non-downloadable messages ?
Is here anybody capable to deduce anything from the above log ?

Jacek

 

If you've never tried Eudora check it out...free:
http://www.eudora.com/download/

Qualcomm isn't selling it anymore.
Current version will remain free.

It's at least 20 times faster and lighter than Outlook Express.
Very easy to configure, even for multiple accounts.
Salute,
Mark

 

Mark,


1. The fact that Eudora became free is both a good and a bad news ;-)
I downloaded their User Guide and I found nothing about possibility to export all content of the underlying database. In that respect I am already trapped by MS and I wouldn't like to repeat the experience w/ another client.


2. Isuppose DASP.net does want to remain "OE compatible". I don't know details of Bruce's research concerning supposed bug in OE. I wonder whether he is able to produce a message which will behave in the pathological way I experience ?


Regards,
Jacek

 

I've been using Outlook and Eudora side by side for years, even now.

With Eudora you can have it save your mail boxes and mail in files.
I've been doing that for my wife so she can back them up easily.
She's even moved her Eudora mail from one PC to another, effortlessly.

A simple trick I've been using on new system is to install Eudora, then drop my previous mail into the folders.
Works every time.

I haven't used Eudora with SQL Server like I do with Outlook but I've never needed to.
Salute,
Mark

 

No I didn't try another client.


In the recent days I noticed :


1. Sometimes non-downloadable emails appear many hours (sometimes 24) later in my OE Inbox as no-subject messages.


2. For the first time the phenomenon occurred for a email not marked by SmarterMail as SPAM, i.e. a non-downloadable email had in SmarterMail Inbox the subject w/o SPAM qualificator.


Jacek